Hall of Famer or Not?
Submitted by sparty on September 15, 2009 – 9:30 am82 Comments
I have been in the NFL for 12 years. I am a 5-time pro bowler and a 3-time First Team All-Pro. I have played my entire career for the same team. I have recorded 24 sacks and 37 INTs. I am among 4 players in history that have record at least 20 sacks and 30 INTs. I am actually the all-time leader among DBs in sacks. I have 12 TDs in my long career, 4 of them on fumble recoveries, 1 on a punt return. I have forced a total of 11 fumbles overall, to go along with my 904 tackles. Since it seems very important to those who vote – I am also a member of Super Bowl winning team.
Am I a Hall of Famer?
Who am I? (take your guesses)
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Ronde Barber? and yes.
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i know! i know!
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Darrel Green?
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well, that would be the only way tiki gets his likeness in Canton
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Ben Roethlisberger?
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he told me he would rather go in as a broadcaster in 2040.
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Well I was going with Ronde Barber, but patphish beat me to it…he’s in.
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If you have to ask, the answer is no.
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No! He said Hall of Famer…that would have to mean Mark Sanchez! His illustrous career clearly lends me to believe me that Hall will need to start chiseling the gold bust that will be needed to carry his greatness
No
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Mark Sanchez has the highest winning percentage in NFL history. He deserves to be in.
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Im in! Sweeeeeeeeeeet.
/gonna ask Kanye to present me.
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damn google. this game isn’t as fun on the internet.
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I still don’t know the answer…
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It’s Lane Kiffin.
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Jonathan Crompton.
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37 INTs to 12 TDs sounds about right.
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I could only hope for that kind of INT:TD ratio.
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Considering how screwed up the NFL HOF selection committee is, how can you really so if Barber’s in or not. Michael Irvin is in, and Cris Carter is still sitting and waiting. Randall McDaniel, the best lineman of the 90s, was kept waiting for three years. There’s no rhyme of reason for it.
/know it’s homerish, but they’re still good examples.
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Those are going to be Favre’s stats for this season.
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Cris Carter not being first ballot is outlandish.
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if you change it from 37 int to 12 tds to 37 ints FOR 12 tds, then yes those will be Favre’s stats.
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i think the NFL Hall of Fame is the biggest joke. The fact that Art Monk waited as long as he did is ridiculous.
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The secret ballot BS is crazy. So is the one representative per team bit. If the rep is well known or has credibility (Wilbon), he’s probably listened to. If not (Sid Hartman), then anyone they bring up is screwed.
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but all he does is catch touchdowns
/buddy’d
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pro sports Halls of Fame in general are a big joke. the fact that there’s some mendoza line of stats for entry is the main joke.
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but that’s not the truth when it comes to the Pro Football HOF.
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which one is it that’s so pretentious that they refuse to unanimously vote anyone in?
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I agree with the Vol.
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you really need to ask?
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MLS HOF
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like everyone said…ronde barber.
NOT a hall of famer. on raw data alone, deserving? absolutely. but when you figure the defense he was on and the pass rushes he perennially had, and the fact that he was the definition of a system player in a system that has about as much value for CB’s as i do for michigan fans…
not even close.
nice player, great career, perfectly manicured eyebrows but not a hall of famer.
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art monk isn’t/wasn’t a hall of famer…sorry skins fans.
it’s the hall of fame, where only the greats get in…then again, terry bradshaw and lynn swann are in there, so i guess you don’t have to be great to get in.
whatever…im sticking by it. monk isn’t a hall of famer.
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ah ghostbusters: Where do these stairs go?
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they go up.
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my favorite movie ever, sae.
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Honestly, DBs on average have a tough time getting in…Woodson, Green, Lott, and Hayes were the only guys who have played in the last 20 years in.
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But his greatness has only diminished since the football started to be chucked around in the 90s.
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figures, make me the guy no one remembers.
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spencer- he retired the all time leader in receiving.
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his greatness was always as a guy who got 3rd downs and was a good blocker. what’s next…letting hines ward in?
HALL OF FAME not hall of really good players who weren’t spectacular.
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The guy that really shouldn’t be in is…………Namath. His #’s are horrible. Monk should have been first ballot, not sure how old you are but he was insane in the 80’s.
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so? wes welker gets 100+ catches per year…does that mean he’s a hall of famer? no…he’s not going to get double covered, he’s not a huge threat, he’s a guy who fits into their system and that’s it. really nice player, but he’s not a superstar.
same with monk.
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i disagree…namath is iconic and helped usher in the league to a new era of popularity. that means a whole lot more than being a quiet possession WR.
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Spectacular? No O-linemen would ever get in if that was what mattered.
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you’re kidding right?
just because they don’t have the ball doesn’t mean OLmen don’t make spectacular plays.
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people ran the ball more in the 80s. a lot more. for God sakes man, Steve Largent was the guy he passed.
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Bradshaw not in? AYFKM? 4 rings, 2 Superbowl MVP, regular season MVP? Come on, thats just stupid.
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spencer didn’t watch enough 80s football.
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Ha! You know when we played Ghostbusters as a kid I was actually always Ray
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Im gonna venture a guess that Monk made more “spectacular” plays than any lineman EVER.
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I never thought I’d say it:
Where the fuck is GITC? I got work to do, he can argue Monk till Spencer just gives up and kills himself.
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i saw him do it against the giants enough times.
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4 rings? wow, i did not know he was solely responsible for those. face it…bradshaw and swann were nothing more than the bow on the total package. they had the best OL of the decade, the best defense in history…what exactly did bradshaw do except keep other teams in games with his retarded gambling? fuck bradshaw.
im going to guess you’re totally wrong.
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well that settles it…he did it against the giants. give this man a gold jacket!
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the giants defense under parcells was um…what was the word you used? spectactular. as were Buddy Ryans Eagles.
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Well he made me the black guy…shouldn’t that be GatorTrey?
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I’m guessing you missed that spectacular block on the Patriots D-Lineman by Rick Donnalley during the ‘Skins game on Sept. 23, 1984.
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And he can golf too? Holy shit.
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SO WHAT SPARTY!@?!?!?!?1?
he was a cog in a 3-man WR corps that was spectacular…why not give those guys credit for taking coverages away from monk?
he was never a guy who’d demand double coverages, he didn’t stretch defenses, he was a possession WR…a damned good one, but a possession WR and those guys aren’t worthy of the hall of fame.
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Same game Monk caught 2 TD’s.
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Donnalley’s block was so spectacular that Monk was able to catch both of those TD’s.
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are you guys seriously saying that OLmen have no value? because that’s certainly what it sounds like.
the OL impacts a game eleventy trillion times more than any WR in history, even rice and moss, do. this is not even arguable. without blockers, nothing works no matter how great the skill guys are.
look at the teams of the decades…steelers in the 70’s…best OL of their decade littered with hall of famers. 49ers…great OL that changed the way teams scheme blocking assingments. cowboys of the 90’s…best OL of all time.
is this a coincidence? NO. all those skill guy HoF’ers would be nothing wtihout the bigguns.
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so you retire your career as the all-time reception leaders, 2nd in yards, and the first ever to have 100 in a season. something nobody would do again for another 7 years. had monk not tried to hold on the last couple of seasons, he would have been elected sooner. he hurt his chances by retiring too late and his numbers being looked down on because teams started throwing it around.
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Where the hell do you get that stuff? You were like a week old during that game.
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i never said anything of the sort. it all starts on the line. usually a qb makes a receiver a better player, right? can you please look at the garbage that played qb for the skins.
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my friend, Google, knows a lot of stuff. I just asked him.
/I was almost 3 years old, thank you very much.
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sparty…he was the first WR to have grossly inflated numbers. is tj houshmazilly one of the best WR’s today? hardly, but he gets a bunch of catches. is welkah? not even close, but he gets a bunch of catches.
having catches and yards means dick. any WR can get a bucnh of catches, not every WR can truly dictate how a game is played.
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Ya they can’t all be Mark Duper and mark Clayton…SNUBBED
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being the first and being one of the followers is completely different.
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theissman, doug williams and mark rypien?
not the best, but not terrible either. but what about their awesome OL and great running game? or the fact that there were two other extremely good WR’s on those same teams? that didn’t help monk out at all?
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jay schroeder, don’t forget that gem. rypien had one good season. one!
i guess you think swan and stalworth don’t belong in the hall. oh, they made spectactular catches in the super bowl, that’s all that counts. guess it is time to put in mark ingram and david tyree.
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sparty…there’s no way you can convince me that art monk deserves to be in the hall of fame. no way at all, period. he was an excellent player, but that’s where it ends. he did nothing to revolutionize his position, nothing outrageous that none of his other peers could do…he just…was.
and that’s not worthy of a gold jacket, i’m sorry. in your defense though, i advocate the smallest hall of fame possible. it makes me sick to my stomach that guys like jim kelly, troy aikman and emmitt smith are in there. it’s just retarded.
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unfortunately, ingram won’t be able to attend his induction. busy taking it up the ass.
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hardly. swann doesn’t belong because his career numbers are pathetic. stallworth i have no problem with, but bradshaw i do.
the hall of fame is a total package…great production over a career AND memorable moments. there are some exceptions, but monk doesn’t fit that criteria.
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spencer- now you nailed it. the pro football hof is watered down. that is why i cannot understand monk not being in. i love harry carson, but he doesn’t belong in either. especially if Carl Banks is not.
for the most part, but getting worse, baseball has done a very good job.
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you mean a HoF that let in paul fucking molitor and cal ripken?
no. not even close…the baseball hall of fame is even worse.
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ha. go look at the list of guys in the hof for football. it’s pathetic when compared to baseball. i really wished you used jim rice as your example.
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Have we guessed who this is yet? Because I’d say Rodney Harrison
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Whoops. Guess I should read the comments first…
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if it said “was suspended for drugs”, you’d be on the right track.
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I still have no idea who it is.
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