In his weekly NBA MAILBAG, a popular column on ESPN.com Bill Simmons decided to take a shot at the Orlando Magic fanbase. Fair enough, he’s entitled, however I felt the need to respond. So I did…
Q: Can you please talk about how much of an idiot you were for picking the Cavs to cruise in the 2009 Eastern finals? By the way, you’re an idiot.
– Every Orlando fan
There was a response to the question that ended with this…
By the way, how dare a Magic fan give me crap? You root for the Orlando Magic! Were you even a fan three months ago? Back in late November, Nick Friedell wrote on Yahoo!: “I’ve covered several games in Orlando during the early part of the season, and there are always plenty of good seats to be had. What surprises me more than anything, though, is the general lack of enthusiasm from some of the crowds. For the most part, the crowds I’ve seen at Magic games are flatter than a pancake. Sure, there are some exciting moments, and, if asked, the fans are usually willing to get out of their seats and cheer. But, if it wasn’t for the noise blaring from the speaker system, you would be able to hear Stan Van Gundy barking out orders on almost every possession.” The 2009 Orlando Magic: Our crowds are flatter than a pancake. Should Disney World premiere its Orlando Magic Bandwagon Ride during the Finals or just wait until this summer?
My response? Note: This is the actual email I sent.
Mr. Simmons,
You’re better than that, right? It was just two seasons ago that the Orlando Magic actually pulled in more fans each night, than the storied franchise of Boston.
Nick Friedell, who you cited in your article, was using Orlando as an example went on to say…
“The scary part for David Stern and company is that Orlando has a booming fan-base compared to that of the Sixers and Grizzlies. Those teams rank 28th and 30th, respectively, on the NBA’s attendance list. The Grizzlies have been bad for several years now, but the Sixers have a young team, that added Elton Brand in the off-season, so why are they struggling so badly to draw a crowd?”
It’s mid November in the NBA, that would be like calling out a crowd at Dodger Stadium or Yankee Stadium in May…Still early, nothing riding yet, of course there will be some empty seats and down time.
In their 1st few years of existence the Magic had a sellout streak at 258 games (starting before Shaq arrived), one less than big the Pistons streak which was broken this season. Yes, the Magic did have some lean years in the early 2000s (14,059 for the first full post strike 99-00 season was their low point), but at our attendance never sunk to the levels of a Sacramento (12,571 this year), or an Indiana (12,221 last year), or even Cleveland (11,496 the year before LeBron).
Our attendance the last three years has been near sellout level (over 17,000 in an arena that holds 17,461). Percentage wise, we were 3rd in the NBA last year in filling the arena, 7th in ‘06-07 as a SUB .500 team.
As for the noise level of the crowd…Reggie Miller publicly stated during the Eastern Conference Finals that the Cavs would not win one in Orlando because the crowds that plagued him in the mid 90s were still around, and that made Orlando a very tough place to play.
Sure we’ve got A LOT of bandwagoners, all professional sports franchises have then. But as a long time Magic fan I can tell ya the crowds and fans have endured some reallybad times here. The loss of Shaq, the injuries to Penny Hardaway, the ultimate trade of Penny after a 1st round loss to the 7th seeded Sixers, Grant Hill’s contract and subsequent years, Tracey McGrady’s guarantee, and Steve Francis…not to mention we never saw the second round of the playoffs OR more than 45 wins for 12 years before last season.
Name one town Orlando’s size/makeup that would have had crowds after a resume like that…I couldn’t
http://www.apbr.org/attendance.html
Yes, this is a silly as shit thing for me to email you about. It’s such a minor thing in a great article…It’s just my passion for the Magic I guess.
If you’d like to check out something I’ve written about this topic feel free…A One Team Town…
If not, I understand.
GO MAGIC!!!
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TREY IN 4! knightro(Quote)
BTW…aren’t the chick pictures supposed to wait for 7IS? knightro(Quote)
Trey- get outta here with your silly facts. sparty(Quote)
Good doing Trey. Me likes. The Bull Gator(Quote)
yeah trey, this is a blog. this is no place for that sae(Quote)
Big D- what are the odds Simmons replies to Trey’s email? sparty(Quote)
chances this email gets to simmons and he reads it…0%. mizerle06(Quote)
however, good work, trey. mizerle06(Quote)
As quiet as the O-Rena might be next Tuesday, it will be exponentially louder than the TD Banknorth Gahden. knightro(Quote)
man, he’s got a face for radio and, based on his podcasts, a voice for print sae(Quote)
watching him on E:60 is painful. sparty(Quote)
Agreed…Trey should made some reference to The Real World, or Road Rules in the subject line to try and increase the odds of him reading it. john(Quote)
I’d respond to my email… GatorTrey(Quote)
Dear Trey,
You’re right. I suck.
Regards,
Bill Simmons
PS – Great sports blog, but I dump the miz guy. knightro(Quote)
Ya…imagine he commented here….it would look something like this.
GatorTrey(Quote)
or Karate Kid. sparty(Quote)
Rocky. Can’t go wrong with a Rocky reference HawkEye19(Quote)
what happened to all the authors here at sparty and friends? these posts today are not normal mikeychx(Quote)
knightro – that hurts, brah. mizerle06(Quote)
mikey – we are approaching the summer solstice at which point the author’s talents will be at their peak. Following this day, the posts will diminish in quality until the winter solstice, at which point the cycle will begin an upswing like we are experiencing now. Truly the circle of life.
/science’d knightro(Quote)
Palazzo Sportsbook at the Venetian has it set at +1350, or 27/2 odds, as of right now.
/ late to the party. stupid lunch break requiring a cross-campus walk. Big D(Quote)
miz – wasn’t me…it was simmons. He’s a hater. knightro(Quote)
Good letter and I missed the original post about the one horse town of Orlando.
Kind of the way I describe Syracuse University sports for the city of Syracuse. However there are minor league hockey and baseball teams there as well. cycledan(Quote)
awesome
GO MAGIC!!
Buck Foston irishmafia(Quote)
Please leave the Yankees out of this. They didn’t draw below 42,000 at home the whole month of May. clown(Quote)
Come on clown…there were PLENTY of empty seats. GatorTrey(Quote)
42,000 average with a 57,545 capacity = 73%
/ math’d Big D(Quote)
The Orlando Sentinal isn’t helping Trey’s case… The Mark Show(Quote)
The Mark Show, that is awful. The Rays probably had something similar. cbh49er(Quote)
apples and oranges. the empty seats at Yankee Stadium were because not everyone is Sultan of Brunei. sparty(Quote)
@ The Mark Show…
When I grabbed my paper this AM, I was like…WTF.
Then I thought about it…it’s the fucking Sentinel. The same paper that called for George O’Leary’s execution for murdering a kid who died while working out.
Grain of Salt. GatorTrey(Quote)
nice work as always Trey irishmafia(Quote)
good job with the post. very definitive. jp manahan(Quote)