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March 16, 2010

Jets Need To Learn Their Rightful Place

By sparty

When people are asked to name the New York area sports teams, they typically answer in a familiar order: Yanks before Mets, Rangers before Islanders, soon they will say Knicks before Nets, and it is always Giants before Jets. A lot of this has to do with history. The former teams have been around longer.  They have been all been around for almost 100 years, at least 70. It is easy to understand why some of the younger teams would develop little brother syndrome.

Fans of the latter teams will deny it. Nobody stomps their feet more than Mets fans. They want to be completely separate from the Yankees and never compared. Unfortunately, for the Mets, they try to spend money similar to the Yanks and don’t have the same success rate. Last year two new stadiums opened in the Bronx and Queens. The Yanks did grab headlines for the new Yankees Stadium becoming the Coors Field of the East coast, but people marveled at the House the Boss Built anyway, even if some of the sight-lines were terrible. Citi Field for the Mets was an afterthought. The biggest story about it was the fact that it contained very little of the Mets almost 50 year history. It was difficult to even spot Mets colors within the stadium. Go ahead and blame media bias if you must, but the perception of the Mets as second class citizens in their own city has a lot to do with them.

The Rangers have the heart of the city. They play in Madison Square Garden in Midtown, that in itself is the heart of NYC. Even though the Islanders were at one time one of the most dominant teams in sports history, they never could replace the Rangers. Their 4 straight Stanley Cup victories pale in comparison to Mark Messier lifting the Cup and the Curse in 1994. If the Islanders ever make another run, there will be a bandwagon that fills up quickly, but it won’t sustain once the ride is over.

The Knicks may be the most overrated franchise in all of sports. They have won only 2 titles since 1946, with their last title coming a year before Richard Nixon resigned from office. Regardless, even in LeBron James heads to the Nets franchise this summer, and when they eventually move to Brooklyn, it will only be a matter of time before the Knicks regain top billing. Heck, even if the Nets and Knicks met in the playoffs, the town would be pulling for the team in Manhattan. Even though the Nets play in Jersey now, there are still more Knicks fans even living in the Garden State. Though the Knicks have been a team of futility for so many years, they still remain a flagship team of the league and the NYC area.

Finally that brings us to the Giants and the Jets. The Jets want to be top dog. They want it bad. Their head coach was the perfect hire to to bring bravado and headlines. However, it took until the final weeks of the season until the Jets took away the back-pages from the Giants. When the Giants suck, they are news. When the Jets suck, well, they are the Jets. The media really tried to get into the Jets playoff run this year, they really did. But not enough of the area cared. When the Giants were bounced from the playoffs a year ago by Philadelphia, the area seemed gloomy. When the Jets were knocked out of the AFC Championship Game, it was more of a “eh, so what?” I mean that’s the Jets fans way. They are fat, obnoxious, boisterous unkempt fans, and if you point out to them the ugly slothful nature of their life, while you hand them a napkin to wipe the dried mustard from the corner of their mouth they respond with, “eh, so what?” Not saying the Giants fans are perfect, but they come off like it thanks to the Jets disgusting nature. Giants fans never had to avoid Gate D when leaving a game.

It doesn’t just extend from the fans and the coach. It reaches all the way to ownership. The Mara family has owned the Giants since 1925. From Tim to his son Wellington to his son John, the team has never left the family. They are much like the Rooney family with the Steelers. They exude a level of class that much ownership doesn’t.  They rarely put themselves in front of the media.  They realize the team is bigger than them. For all the stomping of the feet over PSLs for the new stadium, there are many stories of the Mara family giving season tickets away years before. Players current and former rarely criticize ownership for how they handle things. The ones that have, are typically players of questionable character. Then you have Woody Johnson as the Jets Owner. Let’s get over the fact that his name is Woody. There have been countless stories about the Jets treatment of players during contract situations, and their lack of loyalty. Most recently the team got rid of team leader Thomas Jones. A player that is much more productive than the aging Hall of Famer they just signed in LaDanian Tomlinson. And now you have the owner stomping his feet like a two-year-old over the league offices decision to have a coin toss without their presence to decide who gets to host the first game in the Giants and Jets new stadium. He has even gone as far as to question the integrity of Commissioner Roger Goodell’s office:

“When the issue of which team would be hosting the first regular season game could not be resolved on the merits, I suggested a coin toss as the fairest way to resolve this issue. The League rejected that idea. Then, I was told on Friday that a coin toss had taken place at the League office and that the Jets had lost. We rejected a process in which neither team was present. The League departed from our time-honored tradition and declined the opportunity to set the matter straight with a transparent process.”

Last week on their website the Jets claimed that the coin-toss was going to happen when the league offices didn’t confirm nor did they deny it. So which is it? Woody seems disingenuous with his claims and appears to come off as a sore loser. It is understandable to be upset that the Giants are the prime attraction in a stadium that you helped pay half the bill for. But even if the league was a little shady in their handling of the process to decide who plays first on Sept 12, 2010, isn’t it the way people want it to be? The Jets aren’t the featured team in the New Meadowlands Stadium, even if it is half theirs. People will still call it Giants Stadium, even once it has an official name. Why? Because the Giants are THE New York (NJ) team. Big Brother always gets the attention. There is a reason why their NY is slightly higher than the Jets.

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  • cabbage says:

    Can someone please post a link to this on TBL? Well said sparty.

    J…..E…..T…..S

    SUCK SUCK SUCK  (Quote)

  • john says:

    I mean that’s the Jets fans way. They are fat, obnoxious, boisterous unkempt fans, and if you point out to them the ugly slothful nature of their life, while you hand them a napkin to wipe the dried mustard from the corner of their mouth they respond with, “eh, so what?”

    Outstanding!

    /thumbs up  (Quote)

  • Bluenatic says:

    Amen, brother.  (Quote)

  • mizerle06 says:

    lot of words and effort just to try to pull patphish out of his acute-bronchitis-filled haze.  (Quote)

  • GatorTrey says:

    Giants fans are bitter.  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    GatorTrey: Giants fans are bitter.

    about?  (Quote)

  • GatorTrey says:

    The Jets taking allrhe good dates in the new stadium  (Quote)

  • john says:

    I don’t get why the Jets are so pissed. I’d rather play the second game on Monday night, instead of the first game on Sunday afternoon.  (Quote)

  • patphish says:

    *burp*
    *fart*

    Whatever. Ill try not to trip over the oxygen tanks hung over the back of all the wheelchairs at the next Giants game I go to.  (Quote)

  • Johnny says:

    john: I don’t get why the Jets are so pissed.I’d rather play the second game on Monday night, instead of the first game on Sunday afternoon.  

    Maybe they have an inferiority complex. You know like short guys and White Sox fans  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    patphish: Whatever. Ill try not to trip over the oxygen tanks hung over the back of all the wheelchairs at the next Giants game I go to.

    you can just slink back in your chair like you did after Ross took it to the house.  (Quote)

  • patphish says:

    sparty:

    you can just slink back in your chair like you did after Ross took it to the house.  

    (Quote)

    Thats because the 135 year old Giant fan sitting behind me could only speak 2 words “sit down”.  (Quote)

  • Bluenatic says:

    Just in case anybody needed a reminder why the Jets are not to be taken seriously.  (Quote)

  • Your Met bullshit is utter Garbage. The Media likes to compare the Mets to the Yankees. The Met fan doesn’t give a shit. The past few years, the Met fan has definitely looked at it’s team with blinders on. It’s all about how incompetent the team we root for is. Our misery is based on our team’s performance. Not the Yankees winning. I didn’t give a shit that they won last year. At this point in my life it is par for the course.

    That being said, the Jets and the Jet fan are a completely different being. They have half the seats sold. They over priced the ones they had thinking people would pay for them not realizing about 20% of their season ticket base were psuedo Giant fans who wanted tickets but not enough to invest $4000 a piece to keep them. 40% are on Parole and pay for the tickets with their Welfare check. They are true mongrels. I didn’t give a shit if the Giants opened the place or not but the fact that Woody is crying like a bitch makes me laugh and I will revel in the Sunday at 1 opener. Let the Jet fan deal with traffic on a Monday night in a game that will start at 7.  (Quote)

  • mizerle06 says:

    why didn’t anybody just think to schedule the Giants vs. the Jets in the opener?

    makes too much sense.  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    mizerle06: why didn’t anybody just think to schedule the Giants vs. the Jets in the opener?

    makes too much sense.

    maybe because you can’t do that.  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    oh, and even if it made sense scheduling wise, both teams would want to be the home team.  (Quote)

  • Big D says:

    Seriously, you could have just renamed this post: “Hey Pat, Go Fuck Yourself”  (Quote)

  • patphish says:

    Big D:

    Seriously, you could have just renamed this post: “Hey Pat, Go Fuck Yourself”  

    (Quote)

    or “We’re Giants fans, the most self absorbed douchebags in sports, we think our history makes us better than the rest of the NFL, even though history wise, we’re only 3rd in our OWN division”.  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    patphish: or “We’re Giants fans, the most self absorbed douchebags in sports, we think our history makes us better than the rest of the NFL, even though history wise, we’re only 3rd in our OWN division”.

    historically? let’s be factual now.  (Quote)

  • GatorTrey says:

    Hi we’re Jets fans. We’ve got dick for relevancy outside of one lucky fucking prediction by a guy who was probably inebriated when he made it back in 1969.

    Outside of that the only thing that has made us relevant to football is the fact that a game we played in set up the modern TV contract to not allow broadcast stations to move to other programming until a game is completed.  (Quote)

  • patphish says:

    GatorTrey:

    Hi we’re Jets fans. We’ve got dick for relevancy outside of one lucky fucking prediction by a guy who was probably inebriated when he made it back in 1969.

    Outside of that the only thing that has made us relevant to football is the fact that a game we played in set up the modern TV contract to not allow broadcast stations to move to other programming until a game is completed.  

    (Quote)

    We also completed the greatest comeback in Monday Night, fuck it, greatest comeback EVER against another team whose fans seem to act as if something that happened in 1972 still matters.  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    whose fans seem to act as if something that happened in 1972 still matters.

    well, it does until someone seals the deal.

    /18 and 1 Giant Win’d  (Quote)

  • GatorTrey says:

    patphish:

    We also completed the greatest comeback in Monday Night, fuck it, greatest comeback EVER against another team whose fans seem to act as if something that happened in 1972 still matters.  

    (Quote)

    Fake fucking spike. Eat it.  (Quote)

  • GroovyButSmoother says:

    Your post ignores one thing completely which is pretty relevant to the conversation. What do the Mets, Jets, Islanders and even Nets all have in common? They were originally Long Island teams. So it stands to reason that the Knicks, Giants and Yankees which have longer history as teams and have had a much larger population base from which to draw , would have more fans no?

    You also fail to realize in your dismissal of last year’s Jets’ run and their general consistency/success since the Bill Parcells (the Giants are among only a few franchises that have been better) era, the Jets footprint is expanding. Is it more disgusting than the giants? Perhaps… it is certainly younger, the Giants crowd would be equally comfortable at an assisted living residence as it is at a football game, but now that the Jets have moved their entire operation to Florham Park NJ the team seems to be making some inroads in Jersey which has traditionally been Giant fan territory. Ticket sales have obviously been an issue, but that’s more a function of the absurdity of the scam that is PSLs and a complete botched job of pricing… but during that run last year I saw a ton more green and white than ever before.  (Quote)

  • Bluenatic says:

    GroovyButSmoother: during that run last year I saw a ton more green and white than ever before.

    If anything, that points to the Jets fanbase being a bunch of front-runners, popping out of the woodwork to represent and talk shit when (and only when) the team is winning. When they’re losing, they’re nowhere to be found, especially at the stadium on gameday.

    The Giants fanbase, on the other hand, is much more loyal. Whether the team is in the midst of a 12-4 season or a 4-12 season, the stadium is always packed.

      (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    What do the Mets, Jets, Islanders and even Nets all have in common? They were originally Long Island teams.

    except that the Mets started their play in the Polo Grounds. Oh, the Jets initial fan base was originally the Titans fan base. They played in the Polo Grounds too.

    come on people, let’s use facts.  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    oh, and the Nets started in NJ, then went to Long Island for almost a decade, but have been in NJ since 1977…  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    and even though Queens and Brooklyn are technically part of LI, nobody calls it that.  (Quote)

  • Johnny says:

    Sparty haven’t you learned that facts are highly overrated. Opinion and Hearsay are where it’s at  (Quote)

  • cycledan says:

    With football, I am more of a Jets fan than Giants fan but by a small margin. The reason I don’t go to games is that it ends up being over 3 hours each way if you count getting in an out of the Meadowlands. Too much time commitment for me.

    What Johnson was complaining about was the alleged coin flip by the commissioner that nobody witnessed. Who here would accept a coin flip that they didn’t see and weren’t invited to attend. It has less to do with feeling like the big brother than being told to fuck off by the commissioner.  (Quote)

  • cbh49er says:

    Bluenatic:
      

    And booing just the same. At least they are consistent.  (Quote)

  • sparty says:

    What Johnson was complaining about was the alleged coin flip by the commissioner that nobody witnessed. Who here would accept a coin flip that they didn’t see and weren’t invited to attend. It has less to do with feeling like the big brother than being told to fuck off by the commissioner.

    I guarantee you that Mara and Tisch would not have challenged the commish. I think the Jets blowing their load last week announcing it like they did, and trying to get it to be done at the stadium pissed of Goodell. So one of two things happened. 1. They went ahead and just flipped a coin at his desk. 2. Goodell said screw the fat Jets. And pretended the Giants won the toss. Either way, that Jets suck.  (Quote)

  • I’d much rather have the extra day of prep time. Takes a lot to be a back up DE.  (Quote)

  • mikeychx says:

    sparty: and even though Queens and Brooklyn are technically part of LI, nobody calls it that.  

    /MIKEYZONE

    fixed  (Quote)

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