So, here’s the deal. Yesterday in the comments for TMA I brought you possibly the stupidest sports-related link I’ve seen in a very long time, Sports Illustrated’s list of the eight best QB’s of all time. I’ll give you a second to peruse the list if you haven’t, and another couple of seconds to get over your laughter…
Now, all team biases aside, Peyton Manning is not the greatest QB of all time. Statistically, by the time he retires (assuming Brett Favre is not still playing) Peyton will probably hold every major record in the books. Moreso, he will most likely have done it all in fewer games than Favre, and with fewer mistakes. I might root for a direct Peyton rival, but I respect his game.
The important thing to keep in mind here is that the list is The Greatest QB of All Time… as of right now. Sorry Peyton – you’re not top on that list. Neither are Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Dan Marino or Joe Montana. The top of that list belongs to one man – Johnny Unitas. A man that revolutionized the QB position once again before the AFL/NFL Merger seems to have gotten points deducted by SI for only playing in two “Super Bowls”… and only winning one of them. But for the better part of this century of football, Johnny Unitas owned the NFL Quarterback Record Books.
Immediately following Unitas, at least in my book, is Joe Montana. He didn’t set records. He wasn’t a flashy guy. But he won Super Bowls, and he won them at an alarming rate. One of only two quarterbacks with a 4-0 Super Bowl record along with Terry Bradshaw, Montana did not have the easy road that Bradshaw had to his rings. The NFC in the 80’s was a back and forth with San Francisco, Dallas and Washington whereas in the 70’s, the AFC was pretty much Pittsburgh… and everyone else.
Behind Montana (please, don’t strike me down with lightning…), yes, I have Brett Favre. The sheer numbers have him ahead of everyone else on the list, and the Super Bowl Ring and 3 MVP trophies keep him ahead of the pack. Even if he should have retired three years ago. Let’s just move on.
Following Favre – now it’s time for Peyton. He’s climbing up all the charts (although it’s surprising how high Kerry Collins ranks all time in some of these categories), he has the ring and his 3 MVPs are just further testament to his position among the all-time greats.
Fifth – Dan Marino, hands down. The only thing that detracts from his stature on the list is the lack of shine on his hand. He owned every record in the books until Favre hung on to take them all away. He won an MVP, made 9 Pro Bowls in 16 years, and if he’d ever had a running game behind him would probably have a ring or two. Of course, if he had the rings, he might not have played all 16 years, lowering his overall stats.
Sixth seems like the place for John Elway. He was never the dominant QB of his era, and until his final two seasons he was the definition of Championship Futility (a title that is now 100% owned and copyrighted by Jim Kelly). Elway always put up the type of numbers that could carry a team throughout a regular season, but never get them over the top. Once he got a ground game behind him (and a pretty damned good defense too – let’s not forget that) he got his rings to go with his numbers.
Seventh – call me a homer if you want, but Tom Brady belongs on this list. Three rings in four years. Leading a team to only the second undefeated regular season in NFL history (not a word out of you Sparty…). 50 TD passes in sixteen games (that really seems comical). But more importantly, just look at how much the team suffered when he went down for the season (and possibly next).
Finally, the eighth spot on the list. This is a toss-up for many reasons. You could keep Otto Graham there for his stats at a time when football was more like glorified rugby and the QB position didn’t matter nearly as much. You could add Sammy Baugh for revolutionizing the position (and sport as a whole), but his stats don’t hold up against modern-day numbers (sorry GITC). As strange as it sounds, guys like Warren Moon and Steve Young make a case with outstanding numbers and in Young’s case a Super Bowl win. But I’m going to go off the beaten path a bit and put in a name that we’ve discussed as a borderline Hall of Famer, let alone one of the eight best QBs ever…
Kurt Warner. Hang on a second, I’ll back it up. He’s already got one Super Bowl ring and appeared in a second. He’s one week away from leading his second team to the Super Bowl as a starting QB. He has two NFL MVPs under his belt and, truth be told, should have gotten more consideration this past season. He’s authored some of the most prolific passing seasons in NFL history while playing for the Greatest Show On Turf. And while he doesn’t rank among the all-time leaders in any of the major QB categories (Yards, TDs, Completions, etc.), consider that in his ten year career (shorter than most) he hasn’t been a starter the entire time. The Giants used him as a placeholder for Eli, and the Cardinals brought him in with the idea of being a backup and mentor for Matt Leinart. Now some might say that fact detracts from his worthiness, but I say for him to put up the career numbers he has (28k+ yards, 182 TDs / 114 INTs, a 65% career completion percentage and over 2300 career completions) in only 109 games is even more impressive. From 2002–2007 – a time that could be considered the end of a QB’s prime from age 30-36 – he only averaged 7 games played per year. Think of all the wasted stats to go along with the accolades.
So if my #8 selection makes my list as laughable as the people over at SI, then so be it. But I’m sticking with it, at least until Brett Favre hangs on for another five years and falls farther down the list.
Popularity: 2% [?]
Posted in NFL















I see no real problem with your list…of course Warner is debatable, but the guy is damn good as long as he has some protection from his O-line….he’s definitely Top 10 at the least.
(Quote)
i need to work on Big D and his lack of pictures.
(Quote)
Warner’s biggest problem is that a stiff breeze will facilitate a fumble.
(Quote)
great post, by the way.
(Quote)
where is Dave Brown on this list?
(Quote)
I think Eli should be #9
(Quote)
Funny how a guy named Big D doesn’t have Aikman on the list. 3 rings in 4 years (and he was the COACH of the 3rd team)………..Winning means more to greatness in the NFL than any other sport. Bradshaw needs to be here as well. Marino needs to be immediatley removed from the list. Hes the greatest regular season QB of all time (Peyton is a close 2nd). He’s barely ahead of Fouts all time.
(Quote)
hmmm, sounds like someone needs tog et busy on a hate post…
(Quote)
I think the SI link was more of a list than a ranking. I seriously doubt they would put Peyton at number 1.
(Quote)
bulldawg-regardless, marino needs to be gone!
(Quote)
Peyton vs Favre:
1 super bowl win each, 3 mvp’s each, great stats for both, Favre throws way more stupid interceptions.
Peyton > Favre
Also fuck John Elway in his stupid horse face. Most overrated prima donna douchebag quarterback evAr.
(Quote)
Elway was great. The talent around him was poor to okay until late in his career.
(Quote)
You can think Elway is great all you want. I have a blind hatred for that asshole and won’t be convinced of anything other than that he sucks big time.
(Quote)
Also Denver’s 2 Super Bowl wins are illegitimate. They cheated the salary cap to get them and they should be revoked. Al Davis agrees with me on this.
(Quote)
Where’s Neil O’Donnel place on this list?
(Quote)
Also, using Super Bowl wins as the only measuring stick is not real smart. Is someone really going to claim that Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien and Trent Dilfer are better than Marino? I mean come on, the qb is only one player on the team. The most important probably but still…
/Sparty might claim that Hostetler is better.
(Quote)
Marino Blows
(Quote)
O’Donnell is #581. Just behind #580, Tommy Maddox.
(Quote)
Wow some of the Astros are going to be at NASA today for an autograph session
Of course I’m a Cubs fan so I won’t go but neat
(Quote)
And that would put Kordell at #LAST right?
(Quote)
I’m going to disagree with winning means more in football than all other sports.
Winning shouldn’t matter at all in baseball, matters a middle amount in football, and matters like hell in basketball. I can’t speak for hockey. The reason is simple:
Impact on the game.
No baseball player can win a world series. A great position player can’t make them hit the ball at him. He also only hits one out of every nine times. If he doesn’t get a home run, he has to rely on other to score him.
In football, (almost all of the time) you only play one side of the ball and are only one of eleven players. A QB can be great, but if his defense sucks or his receivers can’t catch or he has no running game to distract the defense he won’t win.
In basketball one player can actually control a game.
(Quote)
Not to mention, the winning field goal against the Browns was wide left, I SWEAR. I was sitting right on top of the TV.
(Quote)
Oops, that comment is about Elway and his horseys.
(Quote)
Marino really blows
(Quote)
Kordell belongs on the WR list.
(Quote)
Nice. Still false. But nice.
(Quote)
I can’t.
/A-Rod
(Quote)
I hate comparing active players to retired ones, but once everyone is retired, it’s going to be….
1A. Peyton
1B. Brady
2. Unitas
3. Montana
4. Elway
5. Favre
6. Marino
7. Otto
(Quote)
I can’t.
/Kobe
(Quote)
Even nicer. This time true.
(Quote)
I can.
/James Posey
(Quote)
Regarding Marino… Finkle =Einhorn. Laces out!
(Quote)
I claim that Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien and Trent Dilfer are better than Marino.
/claim’d
(Quote)
but back to what is important here. Marino blows.
(Quote)
I would take Hostetler in a big game over Marino, anyday.
(Quote)
Wow, you didn’t call BS on me. I’m smarter today than Sunday.
/grudge’d
(Quote)
why? because Marino blows
(Quote)
I would take Lawrence Taylor personally.
(Quote)
What QB is number one on the “Most movie appearances” list? Manning will certainly shatter that one.
Favre = 1
Marino = 3 (little Nicky, Bad Boys 2)
(Quote)
Me too, at least he has a track record of playing in big games.
(Quote)
I heart Dan Marino and his Isotoner hands.
(Quote)
Boomer lets Marino know that being a loser ruins his legacy.
(Quote)
I’d take Hostetler over Stewart… and Eli.
(Quote)
Who was the best running back that Marino ever handed off to? I can’t even think of one name.
(Quote)
you need to take Eli over the last 18 years of QBs in Washington.
(Quote)
Marco how can you put those 2 movies in paentheses and leave out Ace Ventura for Marino. That is just an unacceptable mistake.
(Quote)
Boomer won how many Super Bowls again?
(Quote)
as many as Dan.
(Quote)
I’m not sure, but I think I’m getting a vibe that sparty does not like Marino.
(Quote)
you think I don’t care for him? Just wait.
(Quote)
Sparty:Marino::kwsn:Elway
/sat question’d
(Quote)
Nice. In SAT format, even.
(Quote)
Ace Ventura is the obvious one (RE: finkle=einhorn), i listed the other two
(Quote)
Marino handed off to Marshall Faulk, Terrel Davis, Thurman Thomas and lots of other great backs.
/ProBowl’d
(Quote)
Marino>Eli
(Quote)
Nope. False, Nozzel. Marino blows.
/Science.
(Quote)